{"id":7307,"date":"2003-12-18T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2003-12-17T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mamchenkov.net\/wordpress\/2003\/12\/18\/gnu-arch-first-impressions\/"},"modified":"2005-10-03T00:22:54","modified_gmt":"2005-10-02T21:22:54","slug":"gnu-arch-first-impressions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mamchenkov.net\/wordpress\/2003\/12\/18\/gnu-arch-first-impressions\/","title":{"rendered":"GNU Arch &#8211; first impressions"},"content":{"rendered":"<!-- google_ad_section_start -->\n<p>Something really strange happened today.  I never thought that this is possible, even less that it could happen to me, but it did.  CVS did something really strange to my Intranet\/Webcentral repository.  All the code is there, but there is no more diffirentiation between versions.  Whatever you try to see, you get all the code at once.  Yuck!<\/p>\n<p>That happened probably because I was waiting for something like this to happen.  Not like this, but, well, whatever.  I&#8217;ve been constantly irritated with CVS recently.  Maybe I am using it wrong, maybe it&#8217;s the wrong tool for the job, maybe something else.  Anyway, I switched to using  <A HREF=\"http:\/\/freshmeat.net\/projects\/archrevctl\/\">arch<\/A>.  It seems to be better then CVS in certain areas, so I decided to give it a shot.<\/p>\n<p>Here are the first impressions:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>No RPM found in standard places like <A HREF=\"http:\/\/freshrpms.net\">FreshRPMs<\/A> and <A HREF=\"http:\/\/rpmfind.net\">RPMfind.net<\/A>.  Maybe they are there, but I was not looking hard enough.<\/li>\n<li>Building from source is simple, but two things I hate: 1.  Files like INSTALL and README start with a &#8220;=&#8221; sign.  &#8220;=README&#8221; and &#8220;=INSTALL&#8221; is something  that disturbes me. :)  2. configure didn&#8217;t want to start in the same directory I got after extracting the .tar.gz .  I had to make another one and start configure from there.  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