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		<title>By: Michal Vojan</title>
		<link>http://mamchenkov.net/wordpress/2007/11/14/going-for-fedora-8/comment-page-1/#comment-133585</link>
		<dc:creator>Michal Vojan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. I&#039;ve found the problem is in driver. You can view the bug in bugzilla:  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=417241</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Thanks. I&#8217;ve found the problem is in driver. You can view the bug in bugzilla:  <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=417241" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=417241'>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=417241</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: hazard_</title>
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		<dc:creator>hazard_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try fixing Qt fonts using qtconfig-qt4 utility.</description>
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		<title>By: Michal Vojan</title>
		<link>http://mamchenkov.net/wordpress/2007/11/14/going-for-fedora-8/comment-page-1/#comment-133554</link>
		<dc:creator>Michal Vojan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hazard, could you please publish some info how to fix the problem with fonts? I have probably the same problem as you after upgrade from Fedora 7 to 8, but don&#039;t know where to look. It happened after last batch of upgraded packages which contained xorg but not qt. What is strange is that there is something wrong with kde or qt, because fvwm works fine with fonts. Thanks Michal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->hazard, could you please publish some info how to fix the problem with fonts? I have probably the same problem as you after upgrade from Fedora 7 to 8, but don&#8217;t know where to look. It happened after last batch of upgraded packages which contained xorg but not qt. What is strange is that there is something wrong with kde or qt, because fvwm works fine with fonts. Thanks Michal<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Leonid Mamchenkov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonid Mamchenkov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, and yes, something about the fonts was changed.  Fonts look sharper and more readable, but somehow they are smaller by default.  Sharper is better, of course, but I&#039;ll have to fix the size eventually...</description>
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		<title>By: Leonid Mamchenkov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonid Mamchenkov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hazard,

sounds like you had some fun :)

I&#039;m trying to avoid problems like this as much as possible.  Every version of the distribution brings in some changes which are easy to handle one at a time.  But when a few of these come together, it usually takes more time to solve and the final result is still a messy system.

My approach to this is to upgrade at least every other time.  And I try to upgrade to every version to keep it going steady, but with Fedora&#039;s 6-9 month release cycle, I don&#039;t always have the time.

I hope the yum upgrade process will be improved and tested more in the future.  It feels better than the traditional &quot;reboot to DVD, upgrade, reboot to the new system&quot; way...</description>
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<p>sounds like you had some fun :)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to avoid problems like this as much as possible.  Every version of the distribution brings in some changes which are easy to handle one at a time.  But when a few of these come together, it usually takes more time to solve and the final result is still a messy system.</p>
<p>My approach to this is to upgrade at least every other time.  And I try to upgrade to every version to keep it going steady, but with Fedora&#8217;s 6-9 month release cycle, I don&#8217;t always have the time.</p>
<p>I hope the yum upgrade process will be improved and tested more in the future.  It feels better than the traditional &#8220;reboot to DVD, upgrade, reboot to the new system&#8221; way&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: hazard_</title>
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		<dc:creator>hazard_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My upgrade from FC3 to FC8 was much more difficult. I had the same dependencies hang, so I also tried to upgrade via yum which failed miserably on dependancies, then I upgraded to FC7 (which also initially failed, but I was able to find the reason), and then finally upgraded to Fc8. 

I ended up with completely screwed up fonts, non-working KDE and non-working NX (ksycoca was segfaulting). Fonts were kind of fixed after a lot of X.org/Qt/Firefox tweaking, KDE crashes were traced to a broken .xml desktop entry, non-working NX was fixed by installing NX 3.0 from nomachine. All in all, about 20 hours worth of effort.

My hopes for a better and more reliable Evolution did not realize (Exchange plug-in still locks up), but at least I&#039;ve got an upgraded OpenOffice. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My upgrade from FC3 to FC8 was much more difficult. I had the same dependencies hang, so I also tried to upgrade via yum which failed miserably on dependancies, then I upgraded to FC7 (which also initially failed, but I was able to find the reason), and then finally upgraded to Fc8. </p>
<p>I ended up with completely screwed up fonts, non-working KDE and non-working NX (ksycoca was segfaulting). Fonts were kind of fixed after a lot of X.org/Qt/Firefox tweaking, KDE crashes were traced to a broken .xml desktop entry, non-working NX was fixed by installing NX 3.0 from nomachine. All in all, about 20 hours worth of effort.</p>
<p>My hopes for a better and more reliable Evolution did not realize (Exchange plug-in still locks up), but at least I&#8217;ve got an upgraded OpenOffice. :)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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