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Odnoklassniki.ru - Russian classmates

Posted in All on November 1st, 2007 · 61 Comments

I’m always amazed and shaken when ugly things work. I know they often do, but every time it happens, it’s like the first time for me.

There are many examples around, MySpace.com being the most well known. The idea behind it is nice - to provide a place for youngsters to communicate and share pictures and music. But the way it is implemented is truly ugly. Yet, MySpace.com is one of the top visited web sites on the Web.

Odnoklassniki.ru is another example of this. (Odnoklassniki is a Russian word for “classmates”.) Again, the idea was pretty good - create a way for people to find their classmates and all friends easily. 10, 15, 20 years later names and faces tend to fade out and we don’t remember them all that good anymore. So, those of us who want to get re-connected with friends from the old days have some troubles locating those. With Odnoklassniki.ru it becomes pretty easy - pick the region, area, and school or college where you studied, specify the years during which your were there, and you’ll be shown other people who are registered on the web site, who studied at the same place during approximately the same years. Names and pictures are there, and those help a lot.

The way the whole thing is setup is terrible though. First of all, the web site is horribly slow. Always. I’ve been registered there since forever, and I was checking it out once in a while - always slow. Secondly, it tries to be everything - a contact manager, a search engine, people directory, photo sharing and rating service, messenger, forum, and so on. Needless to say, it sucks badly at most of these. There is not a single function that works properly.

But, the main thing is that it works. The web site is very popular in Russia and lots of people register there every day. I myself managed to find and connect with people who I lost and forgotten a long time ago.

When I think about how these things work, this quote comes to mind (from Pirates of Silicon Valley movie):

Steve Jobs: We’re better than you are! We have better stuff.
Bill Gates: You don’t get it, Steve. That doesn’t matter!

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61 responses so far ↓

  • 1 MIchael Stepanov // Nov 1, 2007 at 2:56 pm

    Agree, it’s too slowly but it’s useful anyway :) Try another good Russian social network site - VKontakte. It seems like Facebook, has nice design and it’s fast :)

  • 2 Leonid Mamchenkov // Nov 1, 2007 at 2:57 pm

    Michael,

    thanks, but I already tried Facebook :)

  • 3 MIchael Stepanov // Nov 1, 2007 at 3:41 pm

    :) Many my friends don’t speak English well or at all. So, personally, I use Russian services to contact them. IMHO VKontakte is the best one currently.

  • 4 Leonid Mamchenkov // Nov 1, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    For me, Odnoklassniki.ru is more of a social experiment rather than a tool. I am in contact with most of the people that I want to be in contact, and without social services at that. Those that I miss, probably don’t use computer at all, so it really doesn’t much matter which site to use to locate them.

    I’m glad it works for you though. :)

  • 5 Dasha Barrett // Nov 17, 2007 at 2:07 am

    I don’t find odnoklassniki paricularly slow, but I do find them extremly unreliable - about two thirds of my outgoing messages disappear - a waste of my time as well as something potentially demagining to my (reestablished) relationships with my classmates.

  • 6 Yana // Nov 17, 2007 at 3:19 am

    I don’t know. I personally like odnoklassniki. It ’s never been slow for me. Well, I guess, like they say :”Whatever turns you on”, guys. :)

  • 7 Natasha // Nov 17, 2007 at 3:20 am

    I always wander how the some people can very negative. I am the person who is against the myspace.com because there is really a lot of bed stories and a lot of happened with children. What about your examples? There is no doubt! There is no comparison with myspace.com! There is no children involves on this site. Everybody is old enough to take care about them self!
    I have not used any site to make a conversation with somebody on Internet, but this one is fine and fast! It is not a truth you have to have a deal with somebody to get a access and bla, bla, bla…… and many many others good things…..
    Be positive and happy!
    With respect, Natasha.

  • 8 sergei // Nov 22, 2007 at 4:17 am

    Odnoklassniki is down for a second day. The sait is good but requires much more attention of the moderators. And it is slow anyway - this is true. It also does not function properly, at least, sometimes. But it seems we have nothing better at the time being.

  • 9 olga // Nov 23, 2007 at 10:55 pm

    I cant complain about the website and i like all those bits together ” a contact manager, a search engine, people directory, photo sharing and rating service, messenger, forum, and so on.”
    I found that website being very result orientated , i have found what i wanted with limited info i had = which is great !
    Yes i have to confess i have had a problems to log on… but it doesnt bother me much

  • 10 Leonid Mamchenkov // Nov 23, 2007 at 11:58 pm

    Olga,

    there are many other specialized web services - each one doing a good job in its area. I think it would have been much better to utilize them via integration rather than spending valuable resources on re-inventing the wheel.

    But after all, who am I to judge… :)

  • 11 olga // Nov 25, 2007 at 12:46 am

    to leonid
    But after all, who you are to judge ( sorry )- i could not resist :)
    Anyway - i went on one of those using yr words “specialised website ” . I have to tell you it was Rabish ( from capital letter ) . I have not achieved what i was after.. With supid odnoklassniki web site - i got what i wanted - i have to admit i dont care abou resourses and re-inventing a wheel .. i could not care less .If that is what i want — endof the story

  • 12 Dashenka Elkina // Nov 26, 2007 at 8:04 am

    Я пытаюсь открыть сайт одноклассников уже которую неделю и у меня ничего не получается! Браузер сообщает что связь прервана или что адрес сайта не действителен. Помогите плз, оч хочу найти людей на сайте!

  • 13 Leonid Mamchenkov // Nov 26, 2007 at 12:03 pm

    с одноклассниками какая-то проблема - регулярно недоступен в последние две недели… надо просто переждать.
  • 14 Timur Asaliev // Nov 30, 2007 at 8:22 am

    IMO vkontakte.ru is much better - simple, user friendly, schools sorted properply (1 school = 1 entry. you know what i mean) and it’s just similar to facebook. Why not?

  • 15 Leonid Mamchenkov // Nov 30, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    Timur,

    probably vkontakte is better than odnoklassniki. The point of the post was different. The point was that some sites rise to the top, even though they suck badly. Nobody cares, even me sometimes.

    Odnoklassniki is just another site like that…

  • 16 Sasha // Dec 1, 2007 at 12:20 am

    By a chance came to your site, have read the postings and decided to check out ‘odnoclassniki’. I cannot connect at all! For me it is indefinitely slow. But it would’ve been nice to see ‘рожи’ of faded away friends and acquaintances.

  • 17 Leonid Mamchenkov // Dec 1, 2007 at 12:28 am

    Sasha,

    so many people complained about access to Odnoklassniki.ru recently, that I now have this sneaky suspicion, that the site might be blocked by corporate firewalls and proxy servers. If you are accessing the web site from work and it doesn’t open, try checking it out from home.

  • 18 Roman // Dec 1, 2007 at 2:37 am

    Maintenance of the site sucks, that’s right. However this is probably the largest database of russian speaking folks. I personally found many people I would have never expected to find. Bad thing is that I cannot open this damn site from home. From some other locations it works well, though. There’s lots of complains about this in the web.

  • 19 Vera // Dec 6, 2007 at 5:24 pm

    пыталась открыть”одноклассники” но с домашнего компа ну никак не получается ,даже через приглашение от друзей. Зато с BlackBerry , без проблем, но не могу получить подтверждение о регистрации . Не понятно какой там идиот сайт делал, если он блокируется большинством компов в Сев.Америке.

  • 20 Igor // Dec 6, 2007 at 6:55 pm

    odnovnye providery v Kanade (Bell, Rogers) blokiruyut odnoklassnikov.ru. Dai ne tol’ko ih, mnogo sitov iz .ru blokiruetsya ili postoyanno, ili po neskol’ku chasov v den’, e.g. kleo.ru rabotaet nepolnyi rab. den’, etc

  • 21 Anas Dabbakh // Dec 8, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    The reason why Odnoklassniki.ru is blocked in North America is that it is hosted on a web server which had bad reputation in terms of internet security (don’t know exact details, but probably some internet attacks originated from same or similar servers). This is official posiiton from Rogers.

  • 22 Leonid Knizhnik // Dec 10, 2007 at 11:38 am

    Hey folks
    I discovered the way to bent this f__king block. You go to Russian sites through KPROXY.COM. First google it and then type odnoklassniki.ru from inside. I use this method to trick my my sysadmins at work.
    Best,
    Леонид

  • 23 Svetlana Shevtsova // Dec 13, 2007 at 6:03 am

    This is frustrating when you can not sign into the website, but I forgive it all for the results. I just got am e-mail today from the guy who went to school with me 20 years ago in the Ukraine and today we live in the same city in Canada. Emazing…

  • 24 Leonid Mamchenkov // Dec 13, 2007 at 10:35 am

    Svetlana,

    this is amazing indeed! The world is so small sometimes… :)

  • 25 Anas // Dec 13, 2007 at 4:46 pm

    The solution that worked the best for me was going throgh OpenDns (www.opendns.com) and setting my browser as instructed. This way I have overridden Rogers blocking.

  • 26 Eduard // Dec 13, 2007 at 11:08 pm

    Hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    I could not to get website Odnoklassniki.ru .
    I have mesage over there .
    Please hrlp me
    Eduard

  • 27 Gurgen // Dec 14, 2007 at 8:28 am

    I don’t have access to odnoklassniki.ru for 3 days already. why is that? please, help.

  • 28 George A // Dec 14, 2007 at 4:34 pm

    If you are getting server not found errors, Add the following yo your hosts file.

    81.176.227.11 http://www.odnoklassniki.ru
    81.176.227.1 c1.odnoklassniki.ru
    81.176.227.2 c2.odnoklassniki.ru
    81.176.227.3 c3.odnoklassniki.ru
    81.176.227.4 c4.odnoklassniki.ru
    81.176.227.5 c5.odnoklassniki.ru
    81.176.227.6 c6.odnoklassniki.ru
    81.176.227.7 c7.odnoklassniki.ru
    81.176.227.8 c8.odnoklassniki.ru
    81.176.227.9 c9.odnoklassniki.ru
    81.176.227.10 c10.odnoklassniki.ru
    81.176.227.60 c11.odnoklassniki.ru
    81.176.227.61 c12.odnoklassniki.ru
    81.176.227.62 c13.odnoklassniki.ru

    Note - this may change in the future. Use a web-based DNS lookup site like http://www.dnswatch.info for update information

  • 29 Gennadiy // Dec 17, 2007 at 8:21 pm

    You’re right. Sometimes it has glitches. Yet, I like it. I found many good friends through this site.
    Thanks.
    Gennadiy
    http://www.TopDeploy.com

  • 30 V. // Dec 17, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    Question to George A: how do you add to hosts file?

  • 31 Zoe Colgan // Dec 17, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    Guys… the web bolg creator especially…. why don’t you straiten out your English grammar first, and then try post your ugly criticism… why can’t people just be positive?… ;-))) (listen to me! I am telling you, negativism is so contagious!)

  • 32 Alex // Dec 17, 2007 at 11:25 pm

    If I alter server settings to gain access to this site, will I be leaving my computer/LAN susceptible to the hack attacks? I’ve been leaving abroad for over 10 years now, and was looking to get connected with some of my old classmates.

  • 33 Michael M // Dec 17, 2007 at 11:57 pm

    I’ve tried odnoklassniki.ru and I really love it. It is sometimes slow, but since I have found there my friends that I’ve not talked to for more than 20 years, it’s fun.
    But something is wrong today with that site, I can’t access it. And even George suggest is not working.

  • 34 Mark // Dec 18, 2007 at 1:57 am

    I tryed to get to the Odnoklassniki websie for the past month. Thought it went bankrapt or thomething. Than in one of the forums I found how to get to them. That worked for one day. I also have been using Vkontakte website for a couple of month, and as of tooday Faken Rogers had locked accsess to it too. I’ll wait till Ted Rogers’s dogs will come to collect on my outstanding bill of 4 month. They will be looking at one of many not cureble delinquent accounts once again. For now I will be looking for a new ISP provider and a satellite TV.

  • 35 Lucy V // Dec 21, 2007 at 6:42 pm

    Guys! I tried it and surprised: it’s working pretty well and fast, and I found some lost friens… The site was blocked at my work, but I figuret it out how to do it. Just a tip for you: try odnoklasniki.ru instead of odnoklassniki.ru (skip one s). It’s working… And every time when navigating to next page, delete extra “s”. Sometimes, it’s good to be illiterate!

  • 36 Yelena R // Dec 28, 2007 at 7:43 pm

    Lucy V,
    Thanks a lot!! We got new filter at work and your suggestion to delete extra “S” got me thru. Yes, odnoclassniki.ru maybe not the best site to
    navigate, but it helped me and a lot of others to get reconnected.
    I found people I never though I will ever talk again ever..

  • 37 lana // Dec 29, 2007 at 12:47 am

    ==the web bolg creator especially…. why don’t you *straiten out* your English grammar first, and then try post your ugly criticism… ==

    indeed, Zoe… about YOUR grammar first.

    (the ugliest comment on this blog so far)

  • 38 Gennadiy Zaretskiy // Jan 4, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    I have been registered on that site for two months now. And during that time I had a problem to connect to the site only once. Site was completely down. For the rest of the time it works fine. I leave in NJ, and I heard that the users from different areas can not connect to the site at all. See: http://eng.cnews.ru/news/...n....../06/278358

  • 39 Элька // Jan 14, 2008 at 1:43 am

    С Новым Старым Годом вас, дорогие друзья!
    Я думаю, стоит согласиться, что при всех технических недостатках, ресурс одноклассников очень здорово раскручен и несмотря на то, что идея неновая, заимствованная, администраторы сделали его удобным и легким для навигации. Не могу пожаловаться ни на скорость , ни на проблемы с вводом паролей - всё работает чётко, не хуже чем yahoo, google, yandex и Эпрочие популярные сайты. Это мой личный опыт, захожу на одноклассники ежедневно - пожалуй в ноябре был денек, когда с сервером были проблемы пару часов, но потому всё снова наладилось. Ну бывает…
    Дорогие мои, я приношу сердечные извинения, что пишу по- русски. Просто вижу в этом еще один ироничный момент сей дискуссии - вся критика и негативизм выложены” нашими людьми”, нами, кто заканчивал русские школы, кто наверняка отлично разговаривает по-русски, кто шагает на odnoklassniki.ru чтоб найти потерявшихся однокашников. Вместо заслуженного спасибо администраторам, однако, нам привычнее сказать свое фи, да при этом сделать это на английском, подчеркнув свою эээээ…-исключительность? избранность? назовите , какие еще мотивы писать отзывы на русский сайт, который едва ли посещает хоть кто-то из истинных носителей английского языка, на английском ?
    Нет, может оно и ничего, но я пожала плечами в недоумении. Кроме нас, русскоязыких, это просто неинтересно никому. С любовью к великому и могучему, одноклассникам.ру , английскому и всем вам, поздравляю еще раз всех с Новым годом и давайте почаще говорить друг другу и друг о друге приятное.
    Всех благ.

  • 40 Leonid Mamchenkov // Jan 14, 2008 at 2:26 am

    Элька,

    и оригинальный пост, и ваш комментарий были опубликованы не на сайте odnoklassniki.ru, а на сайте mamchenkov.net, который ведётся на английском языке, и который посещает приличное количество людей, по-русски не понимающих.

    Все последующие неанглоязычные комментарии скорее всего будут удаляться.

    (All non-English comments will probably be deleted.)

  • 41 Элька // Jan 14, 2008 at 3:53 am

    No problem, I am not going to be offended if you delete my comments.
    My apologies to those who don’t speak or read Russian. I meant to say thank you to people who are in charge of odnoklassniki.ru and wish everybody happy prosperous New Year of 2008.

  • 42 A. // Jan 15, 2008 at 3:18 am

    For those of you who are unable to connect to odnoklassniki from North America, use an anonymizer proxy. I had the same problem for a while from England, my school blocked it for whatever reason. All I used was a web-based proxy to get around it. There are plenty of decent one’s out there, the one I tried is hidemyass.com.

    A.

  • 43 Sergey // Jan 15, 2008 at 5:23 am

    Well something is wrong with odnoklassniki. I live in North America. I tried a few dozen types of web-based proxies with no success. It says “Failed to connect to a specified host” Anyone else having this issue? Please share what you did to fix it. Thanks!

  • 44 Pk // Jan 17, 2008 at 2:01 am

    Serge, u not the only one who’s having a problems. I guess they getting slammed 2 many people using it. I really like the idea of this site, but well….
    I hope they will fix somehow.

  • 45 Zhenjka // Jan 17, 2008 at 2:23 am

    A long time Facebook user, Im actually pretty impressed with O. Its pretty basic, if not primitive and ugly as anything. You cant really pimp it up too much and almost all my pics have been blocked. but its getting there. I find the only time i can’t sign into Odnoklassniki is in the morning (in Sydney Australia that is), when its the middle of the night in Russia. I think they do their updating/revamping/whatever then. So i just dont bother around that time. Otherwise its been awesome.

  • 46 Mila // Jan 17, 2008 at 2:47 am

    I too, have not been able to log in to Odnoklassniki half the time I try to go there. The site is slow and some of my replies disappear just before I am about to submit them. I think this site might be overhwelmed and is running out of steam. It’s so annoying. I do like the site and found a bunch of old friends there, but there are some huge issues with it, I hope they get fixed soon. :(

  • 47 Janna // Jan 17, 2008 at 3:38 am

    I have been trying to find classmates from Ukraine for years. Many of them I knew were still there, but quiet a few moved to other countries. Odnoklassniki.ru made that possible. Not only was I able to reunite with classmates, but also friends from the neighborhood and others. The two main pros for this site are ease of use and popularity. Even my friend’s 60 year old mother who barely uses computers can upload her pictures with no difficulty. The popularity aspect is also quite important, since Russian people all over the world are using it to reconnect with friends.

    The cons are most of the issues described above. I will not list them since others did a much better job, but I do agree with them. Nonetheless, I love this website and am planning on using it for years to come.

  • 48 Andrey V // Jan 17, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    Hey, mate did you notice that you’re the second in google after odnoklassniki.ru if you’re going to look for “odnoklassniki” in it? :D

  • 49 Leonid Mamchenkov // Jan 17, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Andrey,

    yup, I know. This post is the second result for about 15 or so variations on the “odnoklassniki” query. But thanks for letting me know anyway. ;)

  • 50 Mike P // Jan 20, 2008 at 4:31 am

    I’ve been using the site for a few months now, it’s a great social platform, and I have actually located many of my classmates, may of whom I haven’
    t talked to in 20 years. Their membership numbers are skyrocketing, no wonder the site is down for maintenance (or simply not responding) 2 out of 10 times that I visit it. When it is up, it does get slow sometimes, although it’s not always the site itself but their affiliates and ad partners (e.g. yadro.ru) that contribute to that. From a technical standpoint, they are doing a decent job caching page fragments - those of you who have designed web apps capable of sustaining hundreds or millions of hits per month will agree that this is no trivial task.

    That being said - I remember reading somewhere that they supposedly raised some cash (a few million USD). If that in fact is true, and they are no longer on a shoestring budget, there is no excuse for the site to go down as much as it does.

  • 51 Aleksandra // Feb 1, 2008 at 7:17 am

    Sorry for my interfering.. I am ivolved in some sort of research as a reporter of a small russian magazine. I wonder why people even from the North America try to connect odnoklassniki.ru? How did they manage to find this website? Are all these people russian immigrants?
    And is there any other website in Russia equal to odnoklassniki.ru and vkontakte.ru well-known by foreighners?

  • 52 Lenka // Feb 4, 2008 at 5:12 am

    Ne mogy ponjat kak zaregistrirovatsja. Posle ‘’shag #3” ne ponimaku kuda idti. Help

  • 53 Leonid Mamchenkov // Feb 4, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    Aleksandra,

    There are a lot of Russian people living abroad. Some studying, others - work, yet others - live permanently.

    Finding the web site is pretty trivial with any “odnoklassniki”/”одноклассники” related web search. Also, the site being very popular, I’m sure it receives a great deal of viral word of a mouth advertising.

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  • 55 Laura from NYC // Feb 8, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Guys! can I get some help on registering onto odnoklassniki. I can’t seem to find a single place where I can do this.

    HELP!

  • 56 Leonid Mamchenkov // Feb 8, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    Dear All,

    this site does not provide support for Odnoklassniki.ru. If you have any problems with that web site, you should contact their support/forum/etc.

    Any further requests for help with Odnoklassniki.ru will be moderated. I think we have enough information in this thread to solve most common problems anyway. :)

  • 57 Laura from NYC // Feb 8, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    There are over 130,000 (documented) Russian immigrants living in Brooklyn alone. In New York State there are close to 400,000. I think that if we take all the Russians from all over the world 0 that 20% that log onto the website, outside of Russia, that number is not so big anymore. All my friends are addicted to this website and love to connect with their classmates from back home.

    But I woudl still love to know how one can register.

    L

  • 58 Laura from NYC // Feb 8, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    Sorry Len, to be a pest, but you seam so knowledgable!

  • 59 Leonid Mamchenkov // Feb 8, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    Laura,

    no problem ;)

    By the way, I don’t think that ALL Russians that live outside of Russia use Odnoklassniki.ru . Internet connection and basic computer skills are still necessary to use web site, and I think not everyone (by far) has them.

  • 60 Arm2Arm // Feb 17, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    Hi Leonid, I am absolutely agree with you, the idea is good, but speed is terrible, I have seen that adv. tells that they reached up to 10M users. Do you have an idea what DB are they using to manage it? Is it mysql, or something different?

    thanks for the post
    arman.

  • 61 Leonid Mamchenkov // Feb 17, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    Arm2Arm,

    I don’t know which DB they are using. Chances are that it is MySQL, as it is what most web applications are running on. However, the performance is always good to remember, that it is most always up to the database administrator, sysadmin, and/or programmers. The limitations and implementations of the actual database server are rarely the cause of problems. At least of those which are visible to the end users.

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